Sunday, November 19, 2017
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Bieganski the Blog exists to further explore the themes of the book Bieganski the Brute Polak Stereotype, Its Role in Polish-Jewish Relations and American Popular Culture.
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Excellent! Thanks for posting this. It is a nice respite from the sewage of the political left.
ReplyDeleteThis British observer hit the nail right on the head: Western Europeans are jealous of Polish patriotism because western Europeans have generally lost their own sense of pride in their nations. And so they scoff at Polish patriotism.
[This reminds us of the Aesop’s fable of the Fox That Lost Its Tail. Having no tail of its own, he went around bad-mouthing the existence of tails, and tried to persuade the other foxes to cut off theirs. Here the fox that lost its tail are the western Europeans; the tail is patriotic and nationalist traditions; and the tailed fox is Poland. Because Poland not only refuses to cut off, but celebrates her own tail, she faces the childish petulance of the tail-less fox (western Europeans).]
This courageous Briton also confirms the fact that accusations (of the March of Independence in Poland consisting of fascists and Nazis), were systematic in scale throughout the international media [which he called malicious and positively scandalous], and not some sort of isolated “bad journalists”.
He also demystifies the word nationalist, which has become a bogeyman and naughty-naughty word among the LEWACTWO. A nationalist is one who seeks political independence, and so this Briton self-identifies as a nationalist because he
voted for Brexit.
More power to him!
This confirms the agenda doesn't it? The way Poland/Poles/Polonians are all to be "untered". Its always comforting that others do notice this.
ReplyDeleteGreetings from Kraków. Your blog has certainly come to life after the recent events. We are reading this with some friends and one person says that Sue should reconsider her use of the German word "Unter" in case some persons from PiS accuse her of being a Germanophile. (Only joking, Sue. I know exactly what you're getting at)
ReplyDeleteBut there is a serious side to this. Not so long ago, I was accused elsewhere of "excusing German atrocities" simply because I questioned the sense of pursuing the Germans for war reparations, something which the Germans were obviously going to reject. (If you're going to do it, them go to the UN). But this seems to be the prevailing anti-German feeling at the moment. Don't speak German on a tram in case you get beaten up.
ReplyDeleteIf a certain person responds to this by way of saying that they deserve everything they get, or similar, then I will do my best to ignore him. Arrivederci.
Yes, given that each one of us relies on undeserved kindness from our Creator, the God of Abraham, we do need to be careful about saying that others deserve everything they get.
DeleteAnd I think we want to take care not to make things worse between Poles and Germans. This continuing enmity has been dreadful for all concerned.
Though I do take Jan's point below that we have to keep pointing out that we were victims of the Nazis, not Nazis ourselves!
Michal Karski does Man bites dog journalism - a German was beaten in Warsaw. 100 000 Germans weren't beaten in Poland on that day including a mother talking to her children in German in my street. Shall I warn her that Poles are animals?
DeleteA group of German activists wants a monument of Polish victims of German Nazis in Berlin. If such idea were formulated by me one month ago, I bet that many Poles would have warned me - don't demand anything from Germany, you are an underdog. Now educated an dinfluential Germans admit that the German-Polish contacs aren't symmetric.
You may have misunderstood the point I was making to Sue - however flippantly. Poles do not generally go around beating foreigners. I agree with you there. The case I was talking about was a POLISH professor getting beaten up for speaking German. Anti-German feeling is still strong, it seems. Would anyone have been beaten for speaking, for instance, Spanish or Portuguese?
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You may have misunderstood the point I was making to Sue - however flippantly. Poles do not generally go around beating foreigners. I agree with you there. The case I was talking about was a POLISH professor getting beaten up for speaking German. Anti-German feeling is still strong, it seems. Would anyone have been beaten for speaking, for instance, Spanish or Portuguese?
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I was going to say that I seem to have a Doppelgänger, but of course, that's a German word. How about "I have a shadow''? (Doesn't sound the same, does it?) Or else, there's someone out there who is pretending to be me.
Delete"Would anyone have been beaten for speaking, for instance, Spanish or Portuguese?"
DeleteNot likely. Their armies have never visited Poland.
We have history with the Germans. Usually it's family history. Often very painful one.
Everyone knows the history and you are only reinforcing the point I made that there is still anti-German feeling - and probably anti-Russian feeling as well - in Poland. It all kind of depends on how the two German speakers were behaving. I doubt if two academics would have been behaving as provocatively as,say, rowdy football hooligans.
DeleteI'll just say this: three of my grandparents died horrible and abject deaths in Stalin's USSR. But if I was on a tram and I heard what was obviously a Polish academic speaking Russian to his colleague, then I would remind myself that these two individuals were not the people who were responsible for the deaths of my family members and therefore they would remain safe on a Polish tram and unpunched by me.
Of course there is still anti-German feeling.
DeletePolish-German reconciliation is superficial. Limited to the upper echelons of society. Bishops sending letters. Politicians shaking hands.
Ink on a paper and empty gestures.
Majority of Poles doesn't know any Germans. They only hear about "polish concentration camps".
That the Polish war-reparations claim against Germany has virtually no chance of financial success is--I think--common knowledge.
ReplyDeleteIt is actually for the purpose of consciousness-raising: Reminding the world of the Nazi German genocide of 3-4 million Poles.
For over a generation, Holocaust Supremacism has permeated Western thinking, and so Polish sufferings have been marginalized, if at all remembered. Furthermore, in recent years, the European Union has adopted a policy of aggressively promoting the Holocaust.
For this reason, the Polish government should go all-out, in reminding the world about Polish sufferings, by suing the Germans. And then suing them again and again...
So much fuss about Poles beating up a Germanophone. Why no mention of recent German violence against Poles?
ReplyDeleteFor example [not this year, thanks to the vigilance of the Polish police], leftist (ANTIFA) rent-a-mobs from Germany came to disrupt the March of Independence. They also did violence against Poles as part of their campaign of enlightening the Poles about the dangers of (what else?) nationalism and fascism.