Folks, as you know, if you read my Save Send Delete blog, I have a lot going on right now, and no energy to devote to the Katyn Memorial controversy in Jersey City.
If you have free time, you should be paying attention to this controversy. Just these few words from Wikipedia should clue you in:
"In April of 2018, it was announced that there were plans to remove the memorial as Exchange Place was to be made into a park.[7]
Mike DeMarco, chair of the Exchange Place Special Improvement District was quoted by The Jersey Journal as being in favor of the removal calling the statue was "politically incorrect" and "I don't think the statue's appropriate for a major metropolitan area ... [The monument is] a little gruesome ... I can't imagine how many mothers go by and have to explain it to their children."[8]
Following an outcry by Poles, U.S. Veterans, Jewish organizations, numerous diplomats and politicians, this plan has now been rescinded and it has been agreed that the monument will be relocated 200 feet away but will remain on the waterfront in a location that is both dignified and practical.[9] The proposed site is a matter of controversy."
The above-quoted Mike DeMarco describes himself as a "stone cold killer." See here.
Here is an excerpt of my eyewitness account, at another website:
ReplyDeleteThe Polish-American Rally, at the Katyn Monument in Niles (near Chicago), on May 12, 2018, by Jan Peczkis, Rally’s Participant.
The rally took place at the Katyń Monument at the St. Adalbert’s Cemetery in Niles, a suburb of Chicago. It was originally intended to protest the impending removal of the Katyń Monument in Jersey City. People of all ages, and walks of life, participated in this patriotic event.
Questions were raised about the circumstances and the adequacy of the late-Friday agreement between the Polish government and New Jersey Mayor Steven Fulop. Was it really a win-win situation?
There were unambiguously-themed speeches. A speaker reminded us that Poles will NEVER submit to the Polonophobic lies about “Polish complicity in the Holocaust”. (Having done much writing about the chronic Jewish mendacity directed at Poland, I couldn’t help but yell “Polska Siła!” – “Polish Power!”)
The home-made posters were especially telling. One exposed Act S. 447 and the Holocaust Industry. Another one, alluding to New Jersey Mayor Fulop’s Jewishness and his ugly falsehoods about Poland, reminded him of the 8th or 9th Commandment, “Thou shalt not bear false witness”. One poster called Steven Fulop on his refusal to apologize for his earlier statements....
[The monument is] a little gruesome ...
ReplyDeleteOk.I know, this is not a contest. But pray tell, if I saw this as a child, I would feel traumatised for a long time:
Memorial sculptures at Miami Beach, Florida
or this here: https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-paris-france-pere-lachaise-cemetery-monument-to-jews-killed-in-wwii-26449066.html
Wonder what whould happen if s.o tried to remove them because "could s.o think of the children?" (Maulde Flanders).
As to the monument: The way Fulop behaved made me think that he is Jewish and a raging leftist. And bingo. Calling a Pole a "white nationalist", probably in order to pander to his voters...Amazing extend of psychopathy.Now he wants to become "ambassador to Poland". S.o plz stop this guy, dont vote for a hater and a bigott. As to the "white nationalism" claim- it is ridiculous. This is what Polish nationalist believe:
http://ruchnarodowy.net/declaration-national-community-and-national-identity/
4. We reject racism and all social and political doctrines based on the notion of race. These doctrines erroneously believe that race is an important reference point in politics and social life. They also emphatically overemphasize the significance of biological differences between people. The essence of Polish Christian nationalism is love of one’s nation. The concepts of nationalist-Catholic thought are incompatible with the view that a person of foreign ethnicity cannot, through education, work and will to assimilate, become Polish. We reject the claim that the Polish nation has no right to accept a valuable person of Polish identity just because such a person differs in ethnicity or appearance. We oppose perceiving nationality solely through the prism of blood and origin – such a perspective is contrary to all Polish tradition and history. It is also contrary to the tradition of the Polish nationalist camp, which as a whole fought against the German National Socialists, something we take pride in. There is no place in the ranks of nationalist organizations for people who try to steer the nationalist movement in a direction that is contrary to its tradition and Catholic thought.
Poland is like the US (in theory) in this regard, not like Germany (unofficially).
I’ve gleaned the following from a few sources.
ReplyDeleteSenate Speaker Stanislaw Karczewski, expressed his opposition to removal of the monument stating that it is “a really scandalous and very unpleasant situation for us" and “Perhaps the Polish Senate will give a statement on this matter.”
Jersey City Mayor Fulop, whose maternal grandparents were prisoners at Auschwitz, tweeted the following reply: “Here is truth to power outside of a monument. All I can say is this guy is a joke. The fact is that a known anti-Semite, white nationalist + holocaust denier like him has zero credibility. The only unpleasant thing is Senator Stanislaw. Period. I’ve always wanted to tell him that.”
“Public broadcaster Polish Radio's IAR news agency reported that the statue would be moved 60 metres to a ‘prestigious location’ by the Hudson River. The decision follows talks between Polish-American Chamber of Commerce Executive Director Eric Lubaczewski, Polish consul Maciej Golubiewski, and Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop.”
“Poland’s PAP news agency reported that Jersey City mayor Steven Fulop has said in a statement he is finalizing plans to travel to Poland in the last week of June. Fulop added he hoped Polish Senate Speaker Stanisław Karczewski would meet him.”
Abe Foxman, national director emeritus of the Anti-Defamation League, spoke with Fulop about resolving the dispute. Ever the unbiased commentator, Foxman didn’t exactly help matters by asking “How many Jewish monuments have been removed or destroyed in Poland since the end of World War II?” and musing that “Katyn didn’t happen on the waterfront of Jersey City, so why build more rifts and crises with the Jewish community?”
Regarding Foxman’s first question, perhaps he could enlighten us by naming a Jewish monument that was either removed or destroyed by the Polish communist government during 1945-1990 or by the Polish government since then. Regarding Foxman’s second question, I would point out that Hitler’s attempt to destroy European Jewry did not occur in the U.S. yet there are numerous Holocaust monuments here. I would also point out that sztetl.org.pl states “There were at least 438 Jews among Polish officers killed by the NKVD.”
I like the way attorney Slawomir Platta and his group conducted themselves. They are tireless activists who pushed for the Katyn Monument in New Jersey to stay put.
ReplyDeleteThey made a little ruckus, and would not let themselves be pushed around or bamboozled. They are an inspiration to us all!
I wish there were more Pol-Ams like that.
Hello,
ReplyDeleteIn 2010 a series of short films called "Epitafia katyńskie" was made. Each episode is 3 minutes long.
Episodes are available to watch for free. There are unfortunately commercials before each episode.
Below is a link to the episode dedicated to rabbi Baruch Steinberg.
https://player.pl/programy-online/epitafia-katynskie-odcinki,204/odcinek-25,S01E25,2761
More information about rabbi Steinberg.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Steinberg
Danusha, I submitted this a few days ago – perhaps I didn’t complete the submission process correctly, so am submitting again.
ReplyDeleteI’ve gleaned the following from a few sources.
Senate Speaker Stanislaw Karczewski, expressed his opposition to removal of the statue stating that it is “a really scandalous and very unpleasant situation for us" and “Perhaps the Polish Senate will give a statement on this matter.”
Jersey City Mayor Fulop, whose maternal grandparents were prisoners at Auschwitz, tweeted the following reply: “Here is truth to power outside of a monument. All I can say is this guy is a joke. The fact is that a known anti-Semite, white nationalist + holocaust denier like him has zero credibility. The only unpleasant thing is Senator Stanislaw. Period. I’ve always wanted to tell him that.”
“Public broadcaster Polish Radio's IAR news agency reported that the statue would be moved 60 metres to a ‘prestigious location’ by the Hudson River. The decision follows talks between Polish-American Chamber of Commerce Executive Director Eric Lubaczewski, Polish consul Maciej Golubiewski, and Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop.”