Monday, June 26, 2017

Bieganski and Muslims on Facebook

A Facebook page called "Notes from Poland" is calling Poles ... wait for it ... racists, unlike any other nationality.  That, I guess, makes Poles the *worst* racists. In other words, Bieganski: The Brute Polak Stereotype

"Notes from Poland" said that Muslim visitors to Poland have been treated badly in Poland. Unlike in other countries, where they are treated nicely. Because we know that England, Germany, and France have no history of racism, certainly no history of racism against Muslims. (I'm being sarcastic.)

I just posted this to the discussion:

The discourse in this thread is profoundly disappointing. 

There are multiple posters alleging, paraphrase, that "Poles are racist." 


Poles are racist and they act like Nazis. 


Poles are "sick"


Poles say terrible things. 


Against whom are we comparing Poles? Against the *Germans.* Against the French and the English and the Spanish.


Apparently those who make these comparisons don't realize how ironic they are. Poland never had an empire on which the sun never set. Poland didn't fight the Algerian War. Poland didn't generate Nazism. Poland didn't host the Inquisition. 


Poles have been *murdered* by jihadis. Poles have been vilified and threatened with sanctions because they don't want to allow into their country mass, unvetted and unchecked Muslim immigration -- an immigration that has no stopping point, and that has generated acts of terror and mass assaults on women, assaults that journalists and governments hid -- and that at least one poster in this thread lied about. 


Later, when the assaults could no longer be hidden, government officials tried to respond by telling German women to dress more modestly. 


Few are asking if the events described in the article even took place as reported. There is a documented history of faked hate crimes. Just recently Aisha Ismail, a Muslim woman, was arrested in the US, in Iowa -- for setting fire to a US mosque. 


Thinking people need to pause here and not given in to hysteria and public shaming and scapegoating of a targeted population -- Poles. 


Jihad and gender apartheid are not Poland's problem exclusively. Singling Poles out for vilification solves nothing. 


First, find out if the events described in this article actually happened. Get accounts from all involved. 


Then, if evidence is found that these events happened, address them. 


You *cannot* adequately address purported events like this by saying, as so many here are eager to say, "Poles are racist. Just like Nazis. Unlike the Germans and the French and the Brits and the Spanish who have all transcended to multicultural nirvana." 


If you don't respect Poles, if you are bigoted against Poles, you are in no position to preach to Poles. You are certainly in no position to preach to Poles about tolerance or respect or not stereotyping! 


And you *cannot* address purported events like this without addressing the wider problems of jihad attacks, gender apartheid, and the politically-correct imposed silencing of real discussion of these topics. 


And this:


Please consider the following.

A story appears in the mainstream press.

A group of Polish youth travel to Iran.

They wear Polish clothing. Arms and legs are bared.

They wear crosses around their necks.

An Iranian spits at them.

What would the Politically Correct among you say?

We know what you would say.

You would say, "It was all the Polish people's fault!

They should not have gone to Iran in Western attire! In Iran, one must dress as an Iranian! No bare arms or legs! Women must cover their hair!

You can't wear crosses in Iran! You must respect the local culture!

And the West has done terrible things to Iran. Of course they were hostile!

Maybe if Western nations would stop saying mean things about Muslims, we wouldn't be treated badly when we travel to Muslim nations!"

That's exactly what the PC among you would say.

You have a double standard. That double standard is making things worse, not better.

*You* and your political correctness are causing problems. Look at yourselves in a mirror before

you throw stones at Poles.

BBC article here
A link to the article about Muslims being mistreated in Poland is here.

The notes from Poland page is here.

4 comments:

  1. It is all politics, just as in the USA with those "racist" Republicans being "anti-immigration." The more immigrants, the more Democratic voters. And the more Democratic voters, the easier for the leftists to force its agenda on the American people. If the Christian element is also weakened in the process, then so much the better.

    The European Union is trying to force Poland to accept tens of thousands of Muslims, and so far Poland is (Bravo!) resisting. Poland must decide her fate--not the Eurocrats and globalists.

    All this is part of the long-range plan to weaken Poland's national and Catholic identity, in the name of buzzwards such as "diversity" and "compassion", so that the European Union, and then the eventual possible world government, will have an easier time ruling over Poland. The ultimate goal is the dismantling of the nation-state in favor of some kind of vague "provinces"---all governed by Brussels.

    So all this talk about Poland mistreating Muslims is just part of the same old, politically-motivated left-wing baloney.

    I have just reviewed a serious, respectable author who openly expressed hope that Poland's Jewish revival, along with immigration, will eventually dismantle Poland's Catholic culture. To see it, please click on my name in this specific posting.

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  2. I just posted this:

    The discourse in this thread is profoundly disappointing.

    There are multiple posters alleging, paraphrase, that "Poles are racist."

    Poles are racist and they act like Nazis.

    Poles are "sick"

    Poles say terrible things.

    Against whom are we comparing Poles? Against the *Germans.* Against the French and the English and the Spanish.

    Apparently those who make these comparisons don't realize how ironic they are. Poland never had an empire on which the sun never set. Poland didn't fight the Algerian War. Poland didn't generate Nazism. Poland didn't host the Inquisition.

    Poles have been *murdered* by jihadis. Poles have been vilified and threatened with sanctions because they don't want to allow into their country mass, unvetted and unchecked Muslim immigration -- an immigration that has no stopping point, and that has generated acts of terror and mass assaults on women, assaults that journalists and governments hid -- and that at least one poster in this thread lied about.

    Later, when the assaults could no longer be hidden, government officials tried to respond by telling German women to dress more modestly.

    Few are asking if the events described in the article even took place as reported. There is a documented history of faked hate crimes. Just recently Aisha Ismail, a Muslim woman, was arrested in the US, in Iowa -- for setting fire to a US mosque.

    Thinking people need to pause here and not given in to hysteria and public shaming and scapegoating of a targeted population -- Poles.

    Jihad and gender apartheid are not Poland's problem exclusively. Singling Poles out for vilification solves nothing.

    First, find out if the events described in this article actually happened. Get accounts from all involved.

    Then, if evidence is found that these events happened, address them.

    You *cannot* adequately address purported events like this by saying, as so many here are eager to say, "Poles are racist. Just like Nazis. Unlike the Germans and the French and the Brits and the Spanish who have all transcended to multicultural nirvana."

    If you don't respect Poles, if you are bigoted against Poles, you are in no position to preach to Poles. You are certainly in no position to preach to Poles about tolerance or respect or not stereotyping!

    And you *cannot* address purported events like this without addressing the wider problems of jihad attacks, gender apartheid, and the politically-correct imposed silencing of real discussion of these topics.

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  3. Your points are all spot-on.

    But don't forget that all this is propaganda, and that propaganda does not exist in order to examine a subject rationally and to tell the truth.

    The propaganda exists for one purpose and one purpose only--to defame Poland and to advance an agenda at Poland's expense. This is done through emotive calumnies against Poland.

    It does not matter where the propaganda is coming from--whether it is leftist/globalist/Euracrat propaganda about how horrible a place Poland is for Muslims, or if it is Jewish propaganda about what a horrible place Poland was for Jews before and during WWII.

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  4. I don't want non-Poles in Poland. Increasingly, it seems to me that the way to achieve that is for Poland to get nukes and nuke the ROW.

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