tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post4792715128830871193..comments2024-03-11T08:31:04.022-04:00Comments on Bieganski the Blog: Thomas Jefferson, Tadeusz Kosciuszko, and BieganskiD Goskahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-22394194030196658362012-12-04T10:39:26.859-05:002012-12-04T10:39:26.859-05:00/// Americans never carried out Kosciuszko's d.../// Americans never carried out Kosciuszko's desire to use his legacy to liberate American slaves.<br /><br />Ok.I have heard, on Polish TV, about Kosciuszkos will and I had thought-thats so Polish of him :-D ("Za Waszą wolność i naszą" For Your freedom and our)- and, it was not carried out?! <br /><br />This here amused me very much:<br /><br />The more interesting point, which Wiencek does not explore, is that Jefferson was experimenting with methods of discipline that might help minimize use of the whip.<br /><br />So, its like: He, he denyied slaves their basic humanity (which includes freedom), and yes, he did beat them, but you know, back than, that was the social norm so dont judge him (apparently, not for Kosciuszko and others so I will judge him by these standards) he he did not beat them that severely with his whip.<br /><br />WTF?!<br /><br />I love his answer,though:<br /><br />I have never had the arrogance to regard myself as a champion of the enslaved people; but if an esteemed historian goes around talking about "kinder, gentler slavery," they surely need one.<br /><br />Hannanoreply@blogger.com