tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post6181076941655157461..comments2024-03-11T08:31:04.022-04:00Comments on Bieganski the Blog: Notes from Poland Facebook Page. I Don't Understand. D Goskahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-18934386706573292612017-10-12T23:26:54.224-04:002017-10-12T23:26:54.224-04:00If you were wondering, the person behind Notes Fro...If you were wondering, the person behind Notes From Poland is Daniel Tilles. His twitter says that he is the creator. Here is his page from the Pedagogical University of Krakow.<br />http://up-krakow.academia.edu/DanielTilles<br /><br />Chris HelinskyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-90906141969970065892017-09-05T02:17:25.979-04:002017-09-05T02:17:25.979-04:00I don't know what happened in Egipt. In Poland...I don't know what happened in Egipt. In Poland sevaral parties wanted radical changes, and I believe that a nationalistic revolution was dangerous. The constitution made Poland unstable in hostile neighbourhood. Jerzy Pankiewicznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-73569158846348017222017-09-02T02:34:05.525-04:002017-09-02T02:34:05.525-04:00Yes and no A Gelzer. We certainly don't want ...Yes and no A Gelzer. We certainly don't want to add any more Thought Police - more than enough as it is! But doesn't our speech and our action comes from what is in our hearts? <br /><br />Isn't that why the God of Abraham teaches his people to control their own thoughts? We must not steal, or course. But also must not "covet" our neighbours goods. We must try to fight the thought patterns that lead us to stealing, or to committing adultery, or to murder.<br /><br />So what people think about others will come out in their thoughts and in their speech. <br /><br />But, yes, much more so when they know its safe to do so. And, at the moment, as we have been carefully placed on the "unter" page in The Handbook of Political Correctness, its pretty safe.<br /><br />Its not career-threatening at any rate. <br /><br />Sue Knight's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597157298218651144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-90437665940544422772017-09-01T20:19:37.453-04:002017-09-01T20:19:37.453-04:00@JPankiewicz: Now here is a question for you: was ...@JPankiewicz: Now here is a question for you: was what happen in 1926 the same as what happened in Egypt in the overthrow of the Arab revolution?A Geizernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-79218673126045759502017-09-01T15:15:52.242-04:002017-09-01T15:15:52.242-04:00Interesting Jan that you speak of "an ongoin...Interesting Jan that you speak of "an ongoing attempt to shame Poles into being compliant" - because I have felt for some time that I am being pressured by "the world" into making a Stalinist-style denunciation of my dear aged father and all his generation.<br /><br />And one of the reasons I do try to tackle a Polish media issue every so often is to make it very clear that I am not going to make that declaration. I love and honour both my parents, and intend to go on doing so.<br /><br />On the Doubleplusgood side, this does help me in my aim to be "no part" of the world"<br /><br />Jehovah's word really is a light shining in a very dark place. He commands us to honour our parents.Sue Knight's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597157298218651144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-47435502010783565552017-08-31T16:40:42.536-04:002017-08-31T16:40:42.536-04:00How Jews view Poles (and I think it is pretty clea...How Jews view Poles (and I think it is pretty clear that there is a veiled anti-Polonism among a significant segment of the Jewish community - though this anti-Polonism is, if you will, part of a broader anti-redneckism or, if you will, elitism (not that different from how many whites view blacks btw) - is beside the point. What should matter are the specific people who attack Poles and Poland - whether Jewish or German or Dutch or whatever. If you make an example of them, the rest will shut up. What they think of Poles in their hearts after that, who cares - we don't need to be thought police.A Geizernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-46845072103176218272017-08-30T08:24:48.574-04:002017-08-30T08:24:48.574-04:00There is much more to Dmowski and the Polish natio...There is much more to Dmowski and the Polish national movement than commonly realized. I have reviewed a whole series of works by Dmowski, Lutoslawski, and other thinkers.<br /><br />To see my reviews of these books, please click on my link in this specific posting.<br />Mr. Jan Peczkishttps://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/fullview/RXR43YNV1CFIB/cm_lm_byauthor_title_fullnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-3523092170210459862017-08-30T02:17:57.459-04:002017-08-30T02:17:57.459-04:00Dowski wasn't Endecja and Endecja wasn't D...Dowski wasn't Endecja and Endecja wasn't Dmowski, the relation was more complicated. Dmowski demanded rational politics, unfortunately was obsessionally anti-Semitic, especially after 1926.Jerzy Pankiewicznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-31061271334915778742017-08-29T21:33:04.913-04:002017-08-29T21:33:04.913-04:00"With all due respect to your personal experi..."With all due respect to your personal experiences (and I too have had positive experiences with individual Jews),"<br /><br />I cannot respect this comment. <br /><br />I published the only scholarly book devoted to Polish-Jewish relations and stereotyping and how negative stereotyping of Poles by Jews and others has distorted history. <br /><br />For Mr Peczkis to suggest that I am "focused on personal experiences" is not a strong indication of the substance of his arguments. <br /><br />Jan I'm not interested in a back and forth with you. You made comments here that I assess as anti-Semitic, and I said so. You've had your say, as well. I'm not interested in a back and forth on this specific topic. If you have something new to add, or if you want to apologize to me and others, please feel free. If you just want to go back and forth on whether your previous comment is intellectually defensible, I won't post that. You've had your say. D Goskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-64949949011125184122017-08-29T21:11:37.464-04:002017-08-29T21:11:37.464-04:00With all due respect to your personal experiences ...With all due respect to your personal experiences (and I too have had positive experiences with individual Jews), I think that we must focus on the total picture. This is especially the case where it counts the most--the opinion-forming institutions. <br /><br />It is out of these institutions (academia, media, and entertainment industry), the ones in which Jews are the most prominent, that consistently emerge by far the darkest portrayals of Poland, and the ones that do the greatest damage to Poland's reputation overall.Jan Peczkishttps://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AEHTJSESJUXVCCFUY42252OJVXWAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-39809761508355964902017-08-29T20:02:20.038-04:002017-08-29T20:02:20.038-04:00Upthread Jan Peczkis is saying stuff about Jews. I...Upthread Jan Peczkis is saying stuff about Jews. I disagree. I don't have time to address his every post. I can just say this. <br /><br />Jewish groups and institutions have invited me to speak about <br />Bieganski. I have received fewer invitations from Poles. <br /><br />D Goskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-7226055303007209622017-08-29T18:32:04.653-04:002017-08-29T18:32:04.653-04:00I do not agree that this is "some Poles and s...I do not agree that this is "some Poles and some Jews still fighting old battles". It is fundamental, deep-seated, and unchanging.<br /><br />How can it be said that Poland and Israel have friendly relations when leading Israeli publications regularly write defamatory articles about Poland, and when visiting Israeli teenagers feel free to express open disrespect to their Polish hosts?<br /><br />Nothing has really changed in recent decades. Thirty years ago it was Claude Lanzmann, and now it is Jan T. Gross that is the hero in academia and media. <br /><br />Otherwise, Holocaust-related thinking remains as dominant as ever, and that is what drives antagonism towards Poland. Yes, America is about a new start, but don't bother to tell that to the Holocaust establishment. It is all about cultivating old grudges and blaming others, and certainly not about making a new start. Just the opposite<br /><br />If you study academic works, as I do, you will see for yourself that genuine amiability between Jews and Poles is somewhere between illusory and marginal. The whole collective mindset of academia consists of unremitting Holocaust-related hostility towards Poles and towards Christianity. In fact, the term Judeocompliant comes into play because too many Polish academics feel that the only way to "make it" in academia is to conform to the usual negative characterizations of Poland.<br /> Jan Peczkishttp://w.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AEHTJSESJUXVCCFUY42252OJVXWAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-86478339224666311862017-08-29T15:51:44.159-04:002017-08-29T15:51:44.159-04:00Lukasz in my experience most Americans of Polish d...Lukasz in my experience most Americans of Polish descent are not anti-Semitic and don't blame Jews for anything. In my experience, the hostility is more common among Jews in America, but they are open to learning and hearing more. <br /><br />Some aren't. I've mentioned my facebook friend Paul here. he ... doesn't seem to want to hear the other side. The other day he made a joke about white trash. So stereotyping, I guess, is okay with him. <br /><br />I know, in my real life, no Polish Americans who use terms like "judeo compliant." D Goskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-80138005389765491752017-08-29T15:45:23.506-04:002017-08-29T15:45:23.506-04:00Poland and Israel have warm, friendly relations.
B...Poland and Israel have warm, friendly relations.<br />But some Jews and some Poles in America are still fighting old battles.<br />Diasporas should be examples to homelands. Instead, they are pickled in hatred.<br />I don't understand it. There are no Nazis and no Soviets in America. No one who could "divide and conquer" that country. Perfect place to get along. <br />America is all about a new start.<br />So what happened? Łukasz Klimeknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-2356886876727001682017-08-29T14:35:37.806-04:002017-08-29T14:35:37.806-04:00The communists in PiS are an exception - not the r...The communists in PiS are an exception - not the rule. You can't compare the two sides that way. Moreover, not all Communists (even in the repression apparatus) were "bad." The "other" side has plenty of its own favorite Communists such as Mr. Bauman. Endecja was not all that was bad but rather much that was good about the 2nd Republic. If you can't understand that, then there is no room for debate with you. Dmowski for all his failures was a commoner who tried to give Poles a sense of national identity and self-respect. You may quibble with some of his thoughts and wince at some of his comments but he was effective in establishing what it means to be Polish. No one has given an alternative since.<br /><br />Regarding the EU - you are right it is not the CCCP. The real question is whether the people who are driving its shape now want it to become what, to them, the CCCP should have been. I think all decent Europeans should say no to further experimentation. Andrew Geizernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-24742484768202912342017-08-29T14:13:20.843-04:002017-08-29T14:13:20.843-04:00When it comes to lemmings I'm not objective. I...When it comes to lemmings I'm not objective. I know such people. They are so depressing and so disappointing. My post would turn into a rant. <br /><br />Lemmings deserve to be analysed by scientists.<br />All I can offer are anecdotes of my "lemming encounters".Łukasz Klimeknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-46755467442675723322017-08-29T13:31:43.469-04:002017-08-29T13:31:43.469-04:00Jan please work on this issue within yourself. I m...Jan please work on this issue within yourself. I mean that in the nicest way possible. D Goskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-9151815973093040422017-08-29T13:30:15.153-04:002017-08-29T13:30:15.153-04:00Is it?
Are Poles obligated to conform to whatever...Is it?<br /><br />Are Poles obligated to conform to whatever Jews say about Poles and Poland (whence the term Judeocompliant)? <br /><br />I think not.<br />Mr. Jan Peczkishttps://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AEHTJSESJUXVCCFUY42252OJVXWAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-11841051291158129452017-08-29T12:48:51.715-04:002017-08-29T12:48:51.715-04:00Jan Peczkis wrote
"Judeo-independent Polish ...Jan Peczkis wrote<br /><br />"Judeo-independent Polish scholars<br /><br />and<br /><br />Judeo-compliant Polish scholars"<br /><br />And that is an anti-Semitic statement. D Goskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-28407697637933854952017-08-29T12:47:36.877-04:002017-08-29T12:47:36.877-04:00"PiS is not antisemitic. And hardly nationali..."PiS is not antisemitic. And hardly nationalistic in my opinion. "<br /><br />Please tell Daniel Tilles of "Nots from Poland." D Goskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-90494251799485689852017-08-29T12:43:22.955-04:002017-08-29T12:43:22.955-04:00Endecja was the most "western" of all pa...Endecja was the most "western" of all parties in the Second Republic. They followed European trends in politics. Nationalism and antisemitism were very popular in the West.<br />PiS is not antisemitic. And hardly nationalistic in my opinion. <br /><br />When it comes to morality PiS looks much better than the opposition. Just to mention few:<br />Hanna Gronkiewicz-Waltz is involved in reprivatisation scandal. And she allowed Saudis to build a mosque in place of Reduta Ordona.<br />Ryszard Petru is involved in Swiss-franc loans swindle. And he cheated on his wife with a female member of Nowoczesna party.<br />Mateusz Kijowski was stealing money from KOD's funds. And he doesn't pay child support. <br /><br />Any home-grown dictator would need help from a foreign country. By "help" I mean military intervention. And the only candidates for despots are those paid pets from PO/KOD/Nowoczesna. Łukasz Klimeknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-11928003502276069792017-08-29T12:39:34.971-04:002017-08-29T12:39:34.971-04:00The kind of name-calling that Piotr refers to also...The kind of name-calling that Piotr refers to also takes place in academia. Polish scholars who disagree with the standard Pole-accusing narrative are summarily dismissed as "nationalists". So we have the "nationalists" on one hand and the "not real Poles" on the other. I reject this misleading and emotive dichotomy.<br /><br />Since Orwellian labeling is going on anyway, however, I focus on behaviors and not motives. Thus, in my reviews, I refer to:<br /><br />Judeo-independent Polish scholars<br /><br />and<br /><br />Judeo-compliant Polish scholars<br />Mr. Jan Peczkishttps://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AEHTJSESJUXVCCFUY42252OJVXWAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-90164349122151131632017-08-29T11:50:20.736-04:002017-08-29T11:50:20.736-04:00Lukasz can I entice you to write a blog post about...Lukasz can I entice you to write a blog post about lemmings? D Goskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-88213879251290650132017-08-29T11:28:16.964-04:002017-08-29T11:28:16.964-04:00It's a facebook page. The link is in the blog ...It's a facebook page. The link is in the blog post, above. It may be a blog as well. I have never seen the blog, only the Facebook page. <br />D Goskahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09353495585591945881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8471082069031980581.post-19640045101980888682017-08-29T10:18:10.735-04:002017-08-29T10:18:10.735-04:00I think that Piotr's point, on the difference ...I think that Piotr's point, on the difference between self-hatred and legitimate criticism, needs to be clarified. <br /><br />As an example, imagine if the events at Jedwabne and Koniuchy were juxtaposed and equally-publicized, and used to teach us lessons about the dangers of collective revenge. I consider myself a reasonable person, and certainly could accept that. <br /><br />But that is not what is happening at all. Check out the media and academia. All we hear about is Jedwabne, and it is done in an accusatory, malicious spirit, and in order to promote the standard narrative of the villainous Catholic Pole. <br /><br />No sane Pole should agree to this obviously anti-Polish arrangement. Mr. Jan Peczkishttps://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AEHTJSESJUXVCCFUY42252OJVXWAnoreply@blogger.com